Derek: "We're very lucky, in a sense, that we've got two two visionaries in the band. You know, David and Nigel are both like, uh, like poets, you know, like Shelley and Byron and people like that. They're two totally distinct types of visionaries. It's like fire and ice, basically. You see? And I feel my role is to, in the band is to be somewhere in the middle of that, kind of in the middle of that, kind of like lukewarm water, in a sense."